Krishnamurti in Greece by Nikos Pilavios

Author:Nikos Pilavios
Language: eng
Format: epub, mobi
Publisher: Kastaniotis Editions
Published: 2014-10-12T16:00:00+00:00

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D. THREE QUESTIONS POSED IN 1956

1ST QUESTION: Psychoanalysts offer the panacea of analysis, asserting that by just knowing what it is all about, one is cured but this does not always hold true. What is one to do when in spite of knowing the cause of one’s trouble, one is still unable to get rid of it?

Krishnamurti: You see, here we have the problem of the involvement of the analyser and the analysed. You may not go to a psychoanalyst, you may analyse yourself, but in either case there is always the analyser and the analysed. When you try to examine the unconscious, or interpret a dream, there is the examiner and the examined; and the examiner, the interpreter, analyses what he sees in terms of his own background, according to his pleasure. So there is always a division between the analyser and the analysed, with the analyser trying to reshape or control that which he has analysed. And the question is not only whether the analyser is capable of analysing, but more fundamentally whether there is actually any division between the analyser and the analysed. We have assumed that there is such a division; but is there in actuality? The analyser, surely, is also the result of our thinking. So in reality there is no division at all, we have artificially created one. If we see the truth of this, if we realize the fact that the thinker is not separate from his thought, that there is only thinking and no thinker – and it is very difficult to come to that realization – then our whole approach to the problem of inner conflict changes. After all, when you do not think, where is the thinker? The qualities of thinking, the memory of various experiences together with the desire to be secure, to be permanent, have created the thinker as something separate from thought. We say that thought is fleeting, but that the thinker is permanent. You may call the thinker permanent, enduring, divine, or anything else you like, but in reality there is no thinker, but only the process of thinking. And if there is only thinking, and not a thinker who thinks, then, without a thinker, an analyser, how shall we solve our problems?

Am I explaining the matter clearly, or only complicating it? Perhaps it is not very clear because you are merely listening to my words, you are not directly experiencing the thing. There is a great difference between having a toothache and listening to the description of a toothache, is there not? And I am afraid something of that sort is what is happening now. You are merely listening to the description, hoping to find a way to solve your problems. Briefly, what I am saying is this: if you once fully understand that there is only thinking and no thinker, then there is a tremendous revolution in your whole approach to life; because in experiencing for yourself that there is only thinking, and not a thinker who must control thought, you have at one stroke removed the very source of conflict.

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